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Minutes of
the meeting of Maresfield Parish Council held on Tuesday 15th
November 2005 in the Village Hall, Maresfield
Present:
Cllr W King, Cllr K Ogden, Cllr J Gutteridge, Cllr S Leaney,
Cllr C Stevenson, Cllr R Street,
Cllr P Tester,
Cllr G Hardy, Cllr H Fry, DCllr J Hollins, DCllr Mrs S Martin,
CCllr T Reid,
CCllr F
Whetstone. T Allen (Clerk), Mrs C Goossens (Assistant Clerk).
Ms K Mira,
Sussex Courier; Mrs C Flittner and Mr Tony Salter (Public)
1001
Public Session
Mr Salter left
a petition to the County Council seeking road improvements at
Piltdown on the A272, following a recent accident where Mrs
Bridget Pullan was badly injured when crossing the road. The
Chairman stated that it was for individual Councillors to sign
if they wish, not a Council matter, and that the incident had
occurred outside of the Parish boundary.
Mrs Flittner
attended to observe the meeting.
CCllr Whetstone
joins the meeting.
In opening the
meeting, the Chairman announced the sudden death of Cllr Weekes’
husband on Sunday 13th November 2005. Condolences
were expressed by all present.
1002
Apologies for absence – Cllr T Sparrow, Cllr Mrs S Weekes, Cllr C Stephens, Cllr R
Tester, DCllr F Brown and DCllr N Buck.
1003
Declarations of Interest – Cllr King as an Officer of Nutley PCC which is a payee in
the payments for approval.
1004
Minutes:-
1.
Minutes of the Council meeting (18 October 2005) for adoption
– These were adopted.
2.
Matters arising from these minutes – Re. Item 3.2, the Chairman confirmed that he had
written to the Leader of ESCC, concerning some of CCllr
Whetstone’s comments at the Council meeting on 20th
September 2005, and that a copy of this letter would be
circulated to Councillors. ACTION: Chairman.
Re Item 4. (top
of Page 2) Cllr Fry reported that, at the Police Authority
Meeting on 25th October 2005, he and the Chairman had
linked with a number of other PC’s to put forward a common view
and that this had resulted in the agreement of Chief Inspector
Rex Matthews to focus on speeding enforcement. A meeting is to
be held soon with the Police Authority to talk about wishes and
needs of rural parishes and with a view to these being
incorporated in the forthcoming Police Plan, to be attended by
Cllr King and Alison Crowe, Chairman of Buxted PC.
Re. Item 10 (page 6) – Councillors Surgeries – Cllr Fry stated
that he had not yet consulted Councillors on this matter.
ACTION: Clerk to add as an agenda item for the next meeting.
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Reports by and questions to:-
1.
County
Councillors
– CCllr Reid stated that ESCC had been able to meet with the
Minister for Local Government regarding improved Government
funding, and that the outcome of this meeting would be known
soon when grants were distributed.
CCllr Reid
stated that he was disturbed that
seeking road
improvements from ESCC at Piltdown on the A272, following the
recent accident, was the reaction of Parishioners, when in fact
the lack of Police enforcement in that area should be the main
focus. CCllr Reid stated that there was little chance of ESCC
road engineering works at this site, as the problems were minor
when compared to many other roads. It was noted that the
petition may be useful for ESCC to take this issue up with the
Police.
CCllr Reid
stated that the use of temporary barriers as a means of
assessing traffic calming measures would only be in those areas
where permanent solutions had already been proposed.
CCllr Whetstone stated that he recently attended a meeting
regarding East Grinstead housing development and the relief
road, noting that the effect of the relief road would be to
channel additional traffic into Forest Row and by consequence
then into Nutley. He urged the Council to become involved in
resisting these effects - it was noted that the Parish Council
was monitoring this development, but that information obtained
to date is that Forest Row does have a real problem, and that
Nutley wasn’t expected to be affected to the same level.
ACTION: CCllr
Whetstone to ask ESCC Officers to provide the traffic
calculations that support this estimated increase in traffic.
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2005
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2.
District Councillors
– The following points were noted in discussions with DCllr Mrs
S Martin:-
·
WDC had won their Judicial Review and a Council meeting was held
last week regarding the Non-Statutory Wealden Local Plan (RDLP)
– to be ratified at a full Council meeting on 14th
December. DCllr Mrs P Kennedy had tabled two amendments for
Maresfield:-
o
Derelict sheds at Park Farm to be used for a new Village
Community Centre. It was noted that this proposal had not been
discussed with the Parish Council. It was noted that DCllr Mrs P
Kennedy and DCllr Buck had been asked to table an amendment to
remove the Park Farm housing allocation from the RDLP, to be
considered as part of the Local Development Framework (LDF), but
that they had stated that they were unable to respond to this
request as this would result in an imbalance of the overall
housing numbers required. It was noted that there were no other
similar amendments tabled, and that only Maresfield Ward DCllrs
could act in this respect, and that in recognition of Mrs P
Kennedy’s position as Chairman, DCllr Buck should again be asked
to move the requested amendment. It was agreed to
urgently request DCllr Buck to put an amendment forward for the
removal of the Park Farm housing allocation from the RDLP, in
advance of the deadline of 16th November 2005. Park
Farm allocation to be considered as part of the LDF in a
holistic approach taking into account the Grampian site, the
proposed waste site at Maresfield Camp and the Ashdown Business
Park.
ACTION: Chairman
o
The ‘green’ area retained under the Revised draft Local Plan to
be retained in perpetuity for the Village
·
Licensing Act comes into effect on 24th November 2005
·
Scrutiny Committee had been looking into sustainability in the
environment
·
Select Committee had been looking at WDC grants system hopefully
looking to improve accessibility and administration of grants
·
WDC had participated at ‘Democracy Days’ in colleges
The
following points were noted in discussions with DCllr J
Hollins:-
·
The Director of Environmental Services, Lesley Barakchizadeh had
left and now Mike Fleming would look after Planning as one of a
three person Directorship, with Daniel Goodwin as Technical
Services Director and Mary Claire-Deane as Community Services
Director.
·
The Foresters Arms extended licence application was under appeal
and it was noted that the Nutley Arms had also applied for an
extension to its licensing hours.
·
700 premises had applied for licences – most of which have gone
through on delegated powers – changes had been minimal.
·
The Clerk asked DCllr Hollins if he can get Officers to
electronically attach notices of licence applications on the
advice emails to Clerks so that the details are known straight
away, and to ensure that accurate information is provided by
Officers, as there had been a case recently where incorrect
information had been given out. It was noted that Parish
Councils can raise objections if a nuisance is caused by new
licences.
·
Groombridge Place, Llama Park, Buxted Park Hotel and Ashdown
Park Hotel had all won tourist awards.
DCllr Hollins
leaves the meeting.
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Council bodies: Actions, minutes and reports by, and questions
to, Chairmen:-
1.
Business Park Development Sub-Committee
– No report. No meeting currently scheduled, awaiting ESCC
consideration of Onyx waste facility application.
2.
Civil Protection
– Generator
shed needs
securing prior to installation of generator. ACTION:
Cllr Gutteridge and Cllr P Tester.
It was noted
that an in-house installation of the cabling to connect the
generator to the Parish office may contravene new regulations
regarding electrical installations. ACTION: Clerk to
investigate.
3.
Communications Team
– It was noted that this function had completely migrated to
the
Parish Office. It was agreed to remove from this item
from future Agendas.
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2005
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4.
Environment & Maintenance
– Cllr P Tester reported that the issue of the Forest Park
Residents Association’s problems with the
large piece of climbing equipment at the Parklands Play Area was
still ongoing. It was noted that the Finance & Administration
Committee was making no significant financial provisions for
resolving this matter and that the equipment was considered too
large for use in the new Fairwarp play area. The Chairman
confirmed that all councillors were aware of the problem and
that the solution must be identified by E&M and then brought
before full Council.
Cllr P Tester
reported that, with regard to future Councillors Footpath
inspections, it was decided that this should be an August
activity and all reports should be back in time for the
September Committee meeting.
i.
Access to Maresfield Recreation Ground – latest position
– Cllr Street gave a short history of the issue of Mr Watts
threatening to block access to the Park Farm driveway for
unexplained reasons. It was noted that advice of solicitors was
being taken, and that in response, they were suggesting a way
forward of registering the land and right of access. The Clerk
stated that he would be calling a second meeting of the
Sub-Committee, set up by Council to address the issue, so that
next steps can be agreed.
5.
Finance & Administration
– Regarding Item 8. in the minutes of the Committee’s meeting
held on 3rd November 2005, Cllr Street confirmed that
the existing copier/printer could be upgraded with no increase
in costs, including taking into account ink cartridges. The
Clerk stated that this assumed minimal colour printing. It was
noted that costs would reduce if the existing machine was
retained as the Parish Council would own it from April 2006, and
that the only costs would be for maintenance; however the
existing machine cannot print colour and is three years old and
working at full capacity.
The Clerk
stated that the next meeting of the Committee had been moved
forward to 7th December 2005, to allow more time to
prepare the budget/precept report for Council and to circulate
it in advance of the next Council meeting.
ACTION: All Committee/Sub-Committee Chairmen to attend this
meeting.
i.
Month 7 Financial Reports
– Cllr Street reported that there were no causes for concern with many large payments, such as insurance, having
been made. Regarding Item 4023 – Telephone Fax & Internet –
Cllr Street reported that an amount of £500.00 had been accrued
to this heading in this year’s budget for web site development
costs, but that the corresponding payment had in fact been
debited from Item 4411- ‘Web Site’.
ii.
Grants and donations policy final version
– The
adopted Grants and Donations Policy had been circulated with the
Council papers for information.
iii.
2006/07 Budget/Precept report
– Cllr Street reported that the increase in Precept was likely
to be about 5%, but that this was dependent on current
projections for underspend and did not take into account
expenditure for dealing with the Maresfield Recreation Ground
access.
6.
Planning
Cllr Ogden
stated that Hillmead in Nutley was still on the agenda for the
recent WDC meeting to discuss the RDLP and that he had informed
the Nutley Conservation Group of this.
The Clerk
stated that he had been visited by Mr Watts at the Parish Office
who had stated that he had appointed an agent to develop some of
the area around the Maresfield Recreation Ground, and that he
intends to hold a meeting on 23rd November 2005 with
interested parties. ACTION: Clerk to attend this meeting.
i.
Proposal for the referral of Local Development Framework policy
and definitions development for affordable/social housing to be
referred to the Policy Committee
– It
was agreed
to refer development of this policy to the Policy Committee.
7.
Policy Committee
– No report. Next meeting of this Committee is on 23rd
November 2005.
8.
Strategy Sub-Committee
– The ongoing actions were noted from the minutes circulated. A
written report by Cllr Sparrow on the Wealden EasyLink service
was circulated. This is reproduced below in italics for
completeness.
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2005
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The
combination of four of the six Parishes is providing supporting
finance until the end of March 2006 has meant that the service
has been saved. Wealden District Council is producing, as a
matter of urgency, some short term marketing material to
encourage current usage. The Parish Group meets again tomorrow
(Wednesday 16th November) to start building a longer
term solution, part of which will inevitably also mean a
continued financial input by the community (Parish Councils)
though, hopefully at no higher level than currently
i.
Web site development report
– Cllr Fry reported that the development of the web site was
proceeding as planned and that training was being arranged prior
to handover to the Parish Council. It was noted that full
documentation and back-ups must be obtained prior to final
payment being made.
9.
Traffic & Transport Committee
- Cllr
Leaney reported that the draft Integrated Traffic Management
Plan (ITMP) was being updated for review at the Committee’s next
meeting as it needed some additional editing and formatting. It
was noted that some additional costings also needed to be
obtained. It was hoped that the full document could be
presented to Full Council and be circulated with the papers
prior to the December meeting.
It was noted
that following comments from ESCC at the September 2005 meeting
of the Committee, the cost of implementing the overall Plan
would be quite substantial and difficult to forecast, thus
possible means of finding funding would have to come before
Council at some point.
Cllr Leaney
reported that the operation of a Speedwatch exercise was not
currently supported by the Committee due to the doubts over firm
Police enforcement, and safety issues in operating the Scheme.
The Chairman
stated that Chief Inspector Rex Matthews had indicated that
Speedwatch enforcement may be improved.
Cllr Fry stated
that he objected to Cllr Leaney’s report – i.e. that T&T had
essentially agreed not to carry on with Speedwatch. Cllr Fry
stated that the he thought that the Committee was out of order
in taking this decision and had put the case to the Clerk in
writing. The Clerk stated that he had already replied to Cllr
Fry on the matter and briefly outlined his response.
ACTION: Cllr Fry to discuss further with the Clerk.
Mrs Flittner
leaves the meeting.
The Chairman
stated that Cllr Leaney’s report had been accurate according to
the minutes and felt it would be unfortunate if Councillors feel
they must bring committee decisions to Full Council.
CCllr Whetstone
and CCllr Reid leave the meeting.
Cllr Fry
noted that the Committee had rejected his suggestion to use Owen
Williams as consultants for the ITMP.
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Outside bodies’ reports:-
1.
Ford's Green Management Committee
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Minutes of the last meeting were circulated with the papers.
2.
Maresfield Conservation Group
– Cllr Gutteridge reported that the Working party had been
reviewing the Onyx application for a waste facility at
Maresfield Camp, and had again consulted Steven Bowley. The
initial reaction was that there had been no substantial change
from the original application. The Chairman stated that he would
be unavailable for the ESCC Plans Sub-Committee meeting on 21st
December 2005; Cllr Gutteridge indicated that it may be possible
to ask ESCC to defer the decision on the Onyx application until
January 2006.
Cllr Gutteridge
stated that the Group were also looking at traffic management
issues and had been asked to prioritise the options given in the
Integrated Traffic Management Plan.
3.
Maresfield Recreation Ground Committee
– no report or questions.
A written
report by Cllr Sparrow on Items 1007/4-7 was circulated. This is
reproduced in the relevant sections below in italics for
completeness.
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2005
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4.
Wealden District Association of Local Councils
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The joint efforts to get ESCC to review all speed limits and
introduce 30mph wherever possible in all East Sussex villages is
bearing fruit with a considerable number now covered. However,
WDALC needs to continue to pressurise the Police Authority (and
hence the Police) to enforce those speed limits.
5.
Action in rural Sussex
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The AGM is at the end of this week when the work of AIRS over
the last year will be presented to members and stakeholders.
The spread of activity is now very wide – transport, youth,
children, business, health, village halls, village appraisals,
volunteers and many partnerships. The quality of staff is high
but they are often, inevitably stretched. As members, our
Parish Council needs to ensure that it does get good and prompt
help when it needs it and alerts the trustees if it feels that
things are not as good as they should be.
6.
Wealden
Local Strategic Partnership
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There has been very good progress over the year of villages
(parishes) carrying out village appraisals. Now half of Wealden
Parishes have done or are doing appraisals, a percentage rarely
matched elsewhere in England. This has been due to the LSP
funding the work of AIRS and core Parishes and this process will
continue. The LSP’s objective is to have all Parishes
completing Village Appraisals. These then can link with the
Wealden objectives and make for a stronger platform to achieve
improvement across Wealden.
The LSP now
intends to focus on fewer, more strategic objectives, whilst the
now well developed theme partnerships continue to work on a
wider range of issues.
7.
Sussex Association of Local Councils
–
It may be appropriate for Maresfield Parish Council to comment
to the Chairman of the East Sussex Executive Committee of SALC
that, while it fully realises that Trevor Leggo has had
inordinate difficulties over the summer with administration
support, the executive have not put in place adequate support
facility for Trevor to do his job.
ACTION: Cllr Sparrow and the Clerk to write to the Chairman
of SALC concerning improving resources available to Parish
Councils.
The Clerk
reported that SALC were running a course over weekend 2nd-4th
December 2005 for new and advanced Councillor training and new
Clerks training. ACTION: Anyone interested please let the
Clerk know.
1008
Chairman’s Report
The Chairman
stated that, at the Sussex Police Authority meeting on 25th
October 2005, seven Parish Councils had banded together,
representing approximately 15,000 Parishioners, to pursue the
issue of effective policing for traffic speeding offences. The
response indicated that Sussex Police are sympathetic to this
and are working on a proposal which could satisfy us.
The Chairman
stated that the LDF meetings in the three villages had not
produced big turnouts, but in terms of practical effectiveness
it had been a worthwhile consultation, when taken into account
with the feedback received at the three fetes, the Annual
Assembly and from The Parish Matters.
The Chairman
stated that he was investigating work done on a local voluntary
basis in South Exeter, where a range of local activities had
been pulled together by a charity (including supporting carers,
IT training, gymnastics), and that he would report on this in
due course.
1.
Sending Christmas cards
- The Chairman noted that cards had been sent in past years and
that this was a useful PR exercise, the estimated cost being
£150.00 from the Chairman’s Allowance.
It was agreed
to send cards this year.
2.
New licensing rules – monitoring impact and applications
in the Parish
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ACTION: All Keep eyes and ears open over Christmas period for
noise and disruption etc.
1009
Clerk's Report
– The Clerk’s report on the need for an additional process to
appeal decisions taken by Committees/Sub Committees was
discussed.
It was agreed
to follow the Clerk’s recommendation that no additional process
should be put in place, and that Full Council could handle such
cases where necessary.
The Clerk’s
report on the effect of an epidemic/pandemic on Council
operations was noted and
it was agreed
that accordingly no further action is required.
DCllr Sylvia
Martin leaves the meeting.
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2005
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The Clerk’s
report on a suitable quorum and construction of Committees was
noted.
It was agreed
that the Clerk should discuss this further with Committee
Chairmen to produce a proposal for discussion in advance of the
next AGM.
ACTION: Clerk.
The Clerk
circulated a letter to Council concerning his training and
development needs. This was noted.
1010
Payments to be made for approval
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Payments totalling £5,579.48 were Approved.
1011
Quality Council submission – progress update
– The Clerk reported that the CiLCA preparation was on target.
1012
Proposal for the adoption of a Code of Practice for handling
complaints
– The Clerk stated that
Quality Council
criteria stipulate such a Code was needed and that the draft
circulated was based on NALC model. It was agreed to
adopt the Code as circulated.
1013
Police Community Support Officers – SALC/Sussex Police proposals
for funding by Parish Councils
– The following points were noted in discussion:-
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Financial
support by the Parish Council for PCSO’s was not acceptable
but a contribution to PCSO transport may be possible
·
Should be given support as Sussex Police cannot be relied upon
to give the Parish the policing it requires, e.g. on speeding
enforcement, but PCSO time paid for must be allocated to work
agreed with the Parish Council
·
Other expensive physical traffic calming measures had been
ineffective and the money would be better spent on PCSO’s
·
Would be a means of keeping PCSO’s in the Villages and stop them
being taken away for other work
·
PCSO’s could be trained in speeding control, but this is
expensive and we can’t be sure how long a trained PCSO will
remain in place
·
Effective policing is important to Parishioners, but if the
Council pays directly towards PCSO’s then a proper contract must
be put in place and PCSO’s must be allowed the powers to
prosecute offences
·
PCSO’s have been funded by the Home Office/Police budget and
Parishioners contribute via their Council Tax. This will still
be true if PCSO’s are financed from the Council’s Precept and an
element of double taxation may exist.
·
All members of the public are entitled to the same level of
policing, but this proposal means that the more wealthy areas
would be policed better
It was agreed
to respond to this proposal by stating that the Parish Council
may be prepared to pay for part of the funding for a PCSO, but
this would have to be contracted to work specified by the Parish
Council which must include an element of traffic speed
enforcement. However, the Parish Council required that the need
for its financial support of PCSO’s should first be
demonstrated. ACTION: Clerk.
1014
Communications
1.
The Parish Matters – autumn edition
– The Assistant Clerk reported that
The Parish Matters timetable had slipped but expected to
have it sent out by the end of November 2005; assistance with
envelope stuffing etc would be gratefully received.
ACTION: Assistant Clerk to advise Councillors when help is
required.
Date
of next meeting, 20 December 2005 (Fairwarp)
– The Chairman apologised in advance, as he would be absent from
this meeting.
There being
no further business, the meeting closed at 21:53.
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