Minutes of the Maresfield Parish Council meeting on
Tuesday 16th January 2007
held in the Village Hall, Maresfield
Present:
Cllr W King (Chairman), Cllr C Stephens, Cllr P
Tester, Cllr R Street, Cllr J Handley,
Cllr K Ogden, Cllr J Gutteridge, Cllr H Fry, Cllr
Mrs V Taylor, Cllr R Tester, DCllr Mrs S Martin,
CCllr F Whetstone, Mr T Allen (Clerk) and Mrs C
Goossens (Assistant Clerk)
Public:
Mr Dan Frost (Kent & Sussex Courier), Mr Ron
Ovens (Maresfield Lawn Bowls Club)
A. Public Session
1.
Development of Maresfield Bowls Club –
presentation by Mr Ron Ovens.
Mr Ovens made the following comments;
o
The proposed plans are quite ambitious and will
necessitate a great deal of money being
raised. Applications for funding are currently
being made from various sources.
o
The Bowls club is seeking Parish Council agreement
in principle to the erection of a replacement
pavilion, the current one being in a sorry state.
o
2008 is the time schedule expected for the new
structure to be built.
o
There are not a great number of Maresfield residents
playing for the club at present.
The following points were noted in discussion:
o
The issue is before the Parish Council for
consideration as the trustee of the recreation
ground, the bowls club being a tenant. There will
be a planning application for the Planning Committee
to consider at a later date.
o
The matter was discussed at last weeks Maresfield
Recreation Ground Committee meeting and none of the
attendees representing the other clubs and parties
who use the recreation ground had any objections to
the proposals.
o
The improvements to the Bowls Club will not demand
any financial obligation on the part of the Parish
Council.
o
The Bowls Club was commended for maintaining this
amenity.
o
There are no restrictions as to who can become a
member of the Bowls Club.
o
There are currently 35 members, but the club is
always looking for new ones the optimum being 40-45
members.
o
The original request to develop the site has been
superseded by the plans for the new pavilion. The
two issues are closely interrelated.
o
The Clerk having checked the deeds reported that the
Parish Council has a duty as trustee to keep the
area as a recreation ground and public park for use
by the Parishioners. At some point in the past it
must have been agreed that a bowls club could be put
on the space and the proposed changes are merely an
extension of that original decision.
o
The additional area fenced off by the bowls club
must still be accessible to all members of the
public e.g. for additional parking on fete days etc.
2.
Other public matters –
None.
1197. To approve apologies for absence and to note
other non-attendance.
Cllr Galley, Cllr Hardy, CCllr Reid, DCllr Brown,
DCllr Buck and DCllr Mrs Kennedy.
No apology has been received from Cllr Cranfield.
1.
Resignation of Cllr C Stevenson – Council to decide
on whether to co-opt a replacement prior to the May
3rd 2007 Election.
The Chairman reported that he and
Mr Stevenson have agreed to meet for an informal
“exit interview” as a means of discussing useful
comments / feedback.
The Clerk reported that he is aware of one person
who is keen to stand as a councillor should Council
decide to co-opt.
It was Agreed to proceed and invite
applications for the vacant position; co-option to
take place at the February 2007 Council meeting.
1198. Declarations of interest –
None.
1199. Minutes:-
1.
Minutes of the previous Meeting (19th
December 2006) for adoption.
Page 7. Item 1190. 4. I - Wording to be amended to
read: “Cllr Fry has agreed to take an active role
in the Easylink forum but will relinquish his
position as the Maresfield Parish Council
representative on the AFVRSP as he believes he has
little to contribute at this time.”
Page 1. Item 1188. 2 (Final sentence) - Wording to
be amended to read: “ Cllr Fry stated that he is
still having difficulty in obtaining full access to
the CADDIE system and that he is trying to gain
access to the coded areas. He also reported that
speeding is still not recorded in official crime
figures.”
2.
Matters arising from those minutes.
Item 1190
– The Assistant Clerk confirmed that there were
sufficient Councillors appointed to the Policy
committee for it to be Quorate.
Item 1192
– The Chairman confirmed that he heard from DCllr
Pam Doodes yesterday and sent the letter today.
Item 1188.2 - Cllr Fry reported that he still has
not provided his report in relation to the Local
Council Support Policy Review. ACTION: Cllr
Fry to report at the next Strategy meeting on this
matter.
It was Agreed to take Item 1201.1.I at this
point in the meeting.
I.
Maresfield Bowls Club – Council is asked to approve
in principle the building of a new club house.
The Clerk stated that both an outline and a full
planning application will be seen by the Planning
Committee in relation to the proposals for the new
club house, so there will be two further
opportunities to look at this matter.
The Bowls Club were commended for the proposed
application.
A fence is required for the purpose of protecting
the new building although the gate should remain
unlocked on fete days etc.
Councillors Agreed to approve in principle
the proposals for the new bowls club pavilion and
extended (squared-off) site area.
1200. Reports by and questions to:-
1.
County Councillors.
CCllr F Whetstone made the following comments:
o
He has spoken with Ian Johnson (ESCC) with regard to
the signage for Fairwarp and “Unsuitable for HGV’s”
is the standard wording. However, Ian Johnson
intends to put one sign at the bottom of
Oldlands Hill, Fairwarp as opposed to on the B2026
at the entrance to the village. The notice does not
require a court order and therefore if located in
the wrong place it is relatively easy to move.
It was noted that ESCC may as well save its money as
locate the sign where Ian Johnson proposes, for when
a lorry gets to this point it is hopeless attempting
to turn around.
Cllr Street recalled that at the ESCC meeting when
this issue was considered by the Lead Member, one
sign was to be located on the B2026 and another on
the A26. CCllr Whetstone’s report suggests that Ian
Johnson has deviated from what was decided and
agreed by the Lead Member. ACTION: Cllrs R
Tester,
P Tester, R Street and Clerk to follow up with Ian
Johnson, ESCC
Mr R Ovens left the meeting.
o
The Secondary School league tables have been
published and show that although Uckfield and
Chailey did well, Crowborough did not rate so
highly. Furthermore, coastal schools i.e. in
Eastbourne, St Leonards and Hastings are not
providing very good exam results but that they are
doing a good job teaching the children. The problem
may be that children are not at a high enough
standard when they move up from Primary School.
The Value Added figures show the extent to which
children are improving term on term and year on
year.
CCllr Whetstone confirmed that he knew nothing about
the progress of works at the Maresfield waste site
i.e. in relation to Cllr Ogden’s report that Colas
contractors were working there last Sunday
morning. CCllr Whetstone did confirm that on
Friday of this week he will be visiting the Newhaven
site and may then be provided with further
information as to what is happening at Maresfield.
ACTION: CCllr Whetstone to provide the Parish
Council feedback.
CCllr Whetstone left the meeting.
2.
District Councillors.
DCllr Mrs S Martin reported the following:
o
Tourism – WDC together with Lewes DC have produced
the “Enjoy Sussex Visitor Guide” for 2007. DCllr
Mrs Martin has recently been appointed Chairman of
the Ashdown Visitor Management Partnership. Parish
Councils close to the Forest will receive reports of
the AVMP meetings.
o
Select Committee – This has been undertaking a
Review of Rural and Town Accessibility which will in
due course be reported to Cabinet and Full Council.
Already it is clear that there needs to be more
partnership working towards a more integrated
transport service for Wealden.
o
Council Tax – WDC is proposing its lowest increase
in Council Tax for twelve years with an increase of
4.2%
o
Having recently visited the five new affordable
homes on the A272 in Fletching, she can report that
they are very impressive. The houses are quiet,
have very nice rear gardens with sheds and a bird
table. The heating is electric, but there are solar
panels on the roof and in the sitting room there is
a wood burning stove. The properties are due to be
occupied this week by residents of the Fletching
parish area, all of whom come from Piltdown.
A short discussion followed regarding the
difficulty in resolving attempts to encourage
tourism to the Ashdown Forest with the position of
the Superintendent, who is supported in his thinking
by the Conservators, that tourism to the area should
not be encouraged because it damages conservation.
It was noted that WDC’s promotion of tourism in the
Ashdown Forest is contrary to this and that tourism
in the Ashdown Forest had been removed as a criteria
from the WDC LDF Sustainability Scoping Report.
It was noted as being surprising that those
occupants of the new affordable homes in Fletching
with children, would have to either cross the busy
A272 to get to Fletching Primary School or walk
along the road to Newick to reach the Primary School
in that village. Nutley village has had affordable
housing sites turned down on the basis of there
being no safe passage to the primary school.
Mr Dan Frost left the meeting.
1201. Council bodies: Actions, minutes
and reports by, and questions to, Chairmen:-
2.
Environment:-
Cllr Ogden reported the following:
o
Parklands Play Area – signed agreement has been
received from the Forest Park Residents and the New
Parklands Residents Association will meet this week
to sign the document (no issues are anticipated).
Once the second agreement has been received, the
play equipment provider will visit the site to carry
out a formal survey prior to the new equipment being
ordered.
o
Vandals have smashed the antique light at entrance
to Maresfield Recreation Ground. Tony Godden has
agreed to fix it for approximately £80, which is
half the alternative quotation.
o
A push for greater recycling is required within the
Parish i.e. provision of more recycling bins. DCllr
Mrs Martin confirmed that WDC is working towards
ensuring every household has recycling facilities by
2010. A test for recycling in rural areas will
begin in the Spring in Forest Row and Danehill.
DCllr Mrs S Martin left the meeting.
The Clerk informed Councillors that the Nutley
notice board, close to the petrol station, has been
vandalised. A budget of £150 remains for notice
board refurbishment and repairs and a quotation of
£124.50 has been received from Wilson builders. The
Clerk will proceed with this quotation and get the
necessary repairs carried out.
3.
Finance & Administration:-
I.
Month 9 Financial Reports.
Cllr Street reported that month 9 is on track, but
it should be noted that there is a substantial
amount in the budget for Parklands Play Area /
Maresfield Recreation Ground Play Area refurbishment
and he hopes that arrangements will soon be in place
to ensure that this money as allocated will be spent
before the end of this financial year.
II.
Maresfield Recreation Ground Access.
The Clerk has drawn up a pro forma Statutory
Declaration and is now in possession of a list of
people who have a long historical knowledge
Maresfield Village and the recreation ground in
particular. Cllr Stephens has kindly provided the
addresses and in some cases the telephone numbers
for these individuals.
Cllr P Tester stated that he can provide evidence
that coaches used the recreation ground access to
transport people to and from football matches in the
1960s.
Cllr Ogden also having lived in the village since
the 1950s can also provide supporting evidence.
Other potential sources may include David
Cornwell, Charlie Miller and two residents in School
Cottages.
ACTION: Councillors to alert the Clerk as to
which individuals they will approach on the Parish
Council’s behalf.
The Clerk stated that the Council can make
the initial application to the Land Registry, which
should involve minimal costs. Cllr Street confirmed
that there is approximately £500 in the budget
reserve in case the Parish Council needs to
re-enlist the services of its solicitors in this
matter.
4.
Planning.
The Chairman explained that following the
resignation of Cllr Stevenson, it had agreed to
rotate the Chairmanship of this committee amongst
its members until the election in May 2007. To
facilitate this, Cllr Ogden has resigned as Vice
–Chairman of this Committee as his involvement in
other committees precludes him from chairing this
Committee on a permanent basis.
Cllr Fry referred to Parishioners’ comments
concerning the handling by the Planning Committee of
the Nutley Arms application, specifically the
questioning by
Mr F Thorogood as to whether the Council is in fact
a Quality Council, and his suggestion that Cllr P
Tester should resign. Cllr Fry queried whether the
Parish Council should make a formal public response
on these points e.g. in its newsletter.
Cllr Gutteridge explained that the matter had been
discussed at the Planning Committee meeting on 15th
January 2007 and reported that Councillors had
agreed no change is needed with regard to current
procedure, but of course each application will be
considered independently and on its own merit.
The Chairman reported that he has spoken with Mr
Thorogood, telling him that the Parish Council will
discuss his concerns and revert to him in due
course.
Cllr P Tester stated that his response to Mr
Thorogood was that he didn’t consider the matter to
be one over which he should resign, but that he had
sought the reassurance of the Committee on this
matter and had received such an assurance from it.
Cllr Street reported that although not a member of
the Planning Committee he had been in attendance as
a member of the public at the meeting on 8th
January 2007. In reading the minutes he notes that
he was misquoted in relation to the Post Office.
What he said was that he thought the Post Office to
be a viable business and that Mrs Bougon could
confirm whether this was indeed the case, but what
he has actually been quoted as saying is that the
site itself is a viable business, and this he would
not know.
ACTION: Clerk to put a note in next set of Planning
Minutes noting this misquote.
The Chairman explained in relation to planning
application number WD/2006/3494/F that the
Planning Committee at its meeting on 15th
January 2007 had decided to defer the application to
enable Councillors to carry out a site visit.
However, the Committee failed to note the response
date as being 17th January 2007, i.e.
prior to the next meeting of the Planning Committee.
Cllrs P Tester, R Tester and R Street declared an
interest and left the meeting.
Cllr Ogden explained the application and site in
question.
The Chairman confirmed that both he and Cllr Ogden
having carried out a site visit would like to make a
recommendation to Councillors that they approve the
application on the condition that the garage is
moved further back onto the plot away from the road
and therefore bringing it more in line with the
neighbouring stables and garaging.
Councillors Agreed to recommend Approval
and inclusion of the stated condition.
Cllrs P Tester, R Tester and R Street returned to
the meeting.
5.
Strategy (to receive reports on Traffic,
Youth, Health & Transport).
The following points were noted:
o
The Nutley youth group had a Christmas party held at
Mr Hacker’s house.
o
Work in relation to a Parish branch surgery
continues to progress.
o
The Easylink service is up and running and work
continues towards the formation of a North Wealden
Community Transport Partnership.
o
A meeting of the traffic portfolio holders is being
called for next week.
It was noted that the Clerk has made several
comments in his Clerk’s Report in relation to the
Strategy Committee matters.
The Clerk and Cllr Fry made the following report
about their recent meeting with representatives from
the Sussex Safety Camera Partnership and ESCC
concerning the siting of a speed camera in Nutley
High Street:
o
Ken Seymour, the Project Manager of the SSCP stated
that Nutley does not meet the criteria for a fixed
camera but does meet the criteria for a mobile
unit. Cllr Fry stated that he will check the SSCP
figures that lead to this assessment.
o
A mobile camera would be in position three times a
month, for one hour during daylight hours and not
necessarily during the busiest time. However,
there will be permanent camera warning signs
positioned at each end of the village.
o
Cllr Fry queried the effectiveness of using the
mobile camera unit and stated that SSCP will be
supplying copies of data for other areas where a
mobile unit has been used.
o
Cllr Fry noted that a mobile unit in itself would
clearly not be sufficient to address the traffic
issues in Nutley High Street and that therefore, the
Council would need to seek additional supporting
measures e.g. from ESCC.
o
The Clerk stated that with effect from 1st
April 2007, the SSCP will no longer be funded by the
Government from fine revenues but instead funding
for road safety measures will be given directly to
county councils by the Government based on the local
transport plan road safety formula.
o
The Clerk stated that SSCP will therefore be
dependent on ESCC funding for its operation which it
has been assured with be “business as usual”.
o
Cllr Fry and the Clerk will be following up the
matter of funding for SSCP with CCllr Reid in late
January/early February 2007.
1202. Outside bodies’ reports:-
1.
NALC ‘Shaping Communities’ event – 13th
February 2007.
The Clerk asked Councillors to ignore this item as
it was discussed at the November 2006 Council
meeting.
2.
SALC ‘Become a Local Councillor – make a difference’
events.
The following points were noted in discussion:
o
Councillors must actively work to encourage people
to stand for the election in May 2007.
o
SALC have provided some useful information. Clerk
has one folder and the Chairman another.
o
On the reverse of the SALC letter is a list of dates
and venues for the launch of this initiative. Trevor
Leggo encourages Councillors and Parish Council
Chairmen to attend these functions with prospective
Councillors if required. ACTION: Clerk to
establish time of events.
o
An A5 pamphlet detailing what Maresfield Parish
Council does and how it operates etc would be useful
for prospective candidates. The Chairman confirmed
that he has begun to put together some ideas in this
regard.
o
An open event / presentation around March 2007 would
be a good opportunity to promote the Council and to
drum up some candidates.
ACTION: Councillors with ideas as to how Council
can be promoted to alert the Clerk and Chairman.
It was noted that it would be good see some younger
individuals who are well established in the area
applying to become Parish Councillors.
1203. Chairman’s Report – followed by
questions to Chairman.
The Chairman reported the following:
o
In relation to Item 1 (to traffic measures), DCllr
Kennedy is in the process of arranging a meeting
with the leader and appropriate officers at ESCC.
o
He has found another potential means of getting
funding from developers for developers
contributions.
o
Dr Bullock, who is an Urdu speaker, having recently
invited Mr Patel for dinner has had extensive
conversations with him regarding the various
possibilities for his shop and the Post Office etc.
o
For the time being, ex Cllr Stevenson has kindly
agreed to carry on with all website related work as
he has done in the past. Another training session
for both the Clerk and Assistant Clerk will be
arranged for the uploading of documents etc.
1204. Clerk's Report – followed by
questions to Clerk.
It was noted that WDC have now received the
Persimmon Application for Park Farm although it has
not yet been posted on their website. Cllr Ogden
asked the Clerk to keep a close eye on the progress
of this application.
1205. Approval of payments to be made.
It was noted that the Easylink payment
for £273.68 is Maresfield Parish Council’s
contribution in respect of Easylink service costs
and that for £1850.25 will be paid from the WDC
Community Grant money that MPC holds as the trustee
administering the grant on behalf of the member
parishes. Payments totalling £5,721.70 were
Agreed.
1206. Communications.
1.
Quality Council function.
The Clerk reported that the QC function originally
scheduled for 28th February will now have
to be deferred due to a number of reasons but mainly
the inability to find a suitable venue. Having
reverted to Trevor Leggo we have asked for another
range of dates.
It was Agreed that this function is a
fantastic opportunity to do some good PR by inviting
those people who work hard in the villages and work
on the committees but are not Councillors, along
with District Councillors and County Councillors.
2.
Election – 3rd May 2007.
Dealt with in Item 1202.2 above.
3.
Annual Assembly – 18th May 2007.
It was noted that Councillors should begin to think
about ideas for this year’s theme.
4.
The Parish Matters – Winter Edition.
The Assistant Clerk reported that article
submissions are still welcome and explained that
prior to the Finance & Administration Committee
considering the costing proposals for the
reformatted version of the newsletter (necessary
since the revision of postal charges), the Winter
edition would be produced in an unstitched A5 format
which works out at a cheaper price than it would to
send the previous A4 format. The font size will not
be any smaller.
1207. Date of next meeting, 20th
February 2007 (Fairwarp).
There being no further business the meeting closed
at 21.20.